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Photographer Hannah Reynolds recounts protecting Alex Pretti’s dying, ICE protests – The Minnesota Daily

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GRACE AIGNER: Hi everybody. I’m Grace Aigner from the Minnesota Daily. Welcome again to a different episode of In the Know, a podcast devoted to the University of Minnesota. 

On a particular episode immediately I’m gonna be chatting with Hannah Reynolds, the multimedia editor for the Minnesota Daily. Hannah turned the multimedia editor in January. Hi Hannah. 

HANNAH REYNOLDS: Hi. 

AIGNER: How are you? 

REYNOLDS: How are you? I’m good. 

AIGNER: Could you simply introduce your self for the pod listeners.

REYNOLDS: Yeah, so I’m Hannah Reynolds. I’m a senior on the University of Minnesota proper now. I’ve been a Daily reporter for in regards to the previous 12 months and a half. And I began out as a beat reporter on the campus admin desk now campus admin desk, and now I’m the multimedia editor. And I run the desk of photographers proper now.

AIGNER: So what has that transition expertise been like from employees reporter to multimedia editor?

REYNOLDS: Yeah, it’s been an attention-grabbing one. You know, I, I really feel like after I got here again, I studied overseas, and after I got here again I used to be, , anticipating to form of go into extra of a managerial, position and place and it undoubtedly was that. But the final two weeks was much more chaotic than I had ready for. But, that being stated, I feel that all of us as a desk actually took that on and, and, , did the perfect we may. 

For me it’s, , I’m not writing tales anymore. I’m making an attempt to seize them visually. And it’s a completely completely different, it’s a thoughts shift for me going again to, , not identical to serving to, , folks work out how to try this successfully, but in addition having completed it, , within the final two weeks, picked up my digicam for the primary time in like 5 months and doing that successfully too. 

So it’s simply been, it’s been a transition and it’s been bizarre as a result of like, once more, I hadn’t picked up my digicam in about 5 months and, after which the final two weeks I’ve picked up my digicam fairly a bit.

AIGNER: And these final two weeks, clearly.

REYNOLDS: Yeah. Yeah.

AIGNER: You’ve been doing numerous on the bottom protection of ICE in Minneapolis, Operation Metro Surge. 

REYNOLDS: Yeah. 

AIGNER: Covering protests, protecting confrontation between ICE brokers and Minneapolis residents. And you had been very energetic on January twenty fourth, which was the day Alex Pretti was shot and killed by two ICE brokers.

REYNOLDS: Mm-hmm.

AIGNER: In Minneapolis. Can you stroll me via that day?

REYNOLDS: Yeah. So, I feel to try this successfully, I must form of stroll you thru the day earlier than. 

AIGNER: Perfect. 

REYNOLDS: Because Friday was very deliberate out. Me and the photograph workforce, but in addition folks on the video desk deliberate to go cowl the mass blackout, financial blackout protest occurring in downtown Minneapolis.

And we did that. We confirmed up at , like midday. And, and we got here right here to the workplace after which we went and we, we coated that for about 5 hours. We had been out in, , sub-zero temperatures for a really very long time taking images. Our cameras bought so chilly that they stopped working at one level as a result of it was simply freezing. 

But that was a really, it was a monumental day to be part of as a result of there have been 50,000 people who confirmed up, greater than 50,000 folks, according to the Strib and according to the New York Times. And so, it was only a loopy day to attempt to doc. And we did that after which all of us went residence and we had been like, pat on the again, we did a superb job. We’re gonna publish a photograph story of Friday.

AIGNER: Right.

REYNOLDS: I used to be like, I’m gonna sleep in as a result of it’s Saturday. 

AIGNER: Mm-hmm. 

REYNOLDS: I woke as much as about 90 messages on my cellphone.

AIGNER: As did I.

REYNOLDS: Yep. And I used to be, it was like 10:30, 11. I didn’t know what was happening. But I knew that two reporters, Tyler and Is abella had gone to the positioning of the capturing. I broadly bought up to the mark after which I used to be like, do you’ve a, do you want a photographer? 

So Tyler, he stated, “Yep try to get here if you can.” And so I bought in my automobile. I actually ran outta my house with my digicam and my badge. And simply drove to, , the place I may ditched my automobile, , closest was about 5 blocks away.

So I walked and after I bought there, I couldn’t get to the place they had been as a result of the, if I’m not mistaken, I feel it was state police and the federal brokers had blocked off the road at that time. So I used to be two blocks away. They had been in it. 

They had been nearer than I may get. But I stood, I stood there as they had been, , dispersing the gang that had gathered on the finish of I’m gonna perhaps get this unsuitable, however the twenty sixth and Blaisdell.

And so we had been standing there and it was a really like, tenuous second. as a result of we, I feel all people up the block was like, what’s gonna occur subsequent? And they did, , use much less deadly, , ammunitions and tear fuel. And that occurred. It went from, they had been, , barricading the block to dispersing the gang inside minutes.

AIGNER: ICE brokers or state police? 

REYNOLDS: State police, state police. It was a mixture of, of state and federal forces. 

AIGNER: Right. Yeah. 

REYNOLDS: That had been working collectively. And so, however I used to be, , I used to be there, I confirmed up, I began taking images, after which they simply. Started to disperse the gang. I used to be standing on the sidewalk.

I didn’t have a press vest so I used to be holding my distance simply out of my very own security as a result of I wasn’t visibly press. I had a small little badge, so I used to be standing up the block a bit of methods. And then the federal they stated FBI over the loudspeaker. They stated that is the FBI disperse. Move. 

And so then all people began to get out of the best way. But I, there was a man that got here marching up the block from, I, I swear he like actually got here out of a home. I, I don’t know. He form of simply appeared and he had the Minnesota flag in his hand and he marched into the center of the road because the armored vehicles had been developing the road and he bought proper in entrance of the automobile. 

And he simply stood there. And he didn’t transfer and he knelt and I bought that photograph. I stood partly on the street to attempt to get that photograph which was a bit of, , I used to be taking part in it a bit of unsafe at that time. It was, , it was simply this loopy, insane couple seconds and I didn’t know what was gonna occur subsequent.

And that was identical to, it was simply wild to witness and be there. And so then after that I bought texts from Isabella and Tyler and so they stated they’re deploying extra tear fuel. I used to be like, I don’t have a vest. I’m not essentially in the perfect protecting gear. Right. And so, , he was like, get out, go. 

And so once more, like right here, we’ve all had the identical dialog, like our security is primary, and we’re not gonna like put ourselves at better threat than we have to. And so I left shortly in any case that occurred. But yeah, that was the primary time I’ve ever gone into any scenario like that. 

I imply, I’ve coated organized demonstrations and, and photographed these issues, however I’ve by no means gone to, , a web site of even two blocks away from the place anyone was shot and killed solely hours earlier than. And in just like the depth of all the pieces happening in Minneapolis, the quantity of people who had been simply exhibiting up, like folks had been streaming outta their homes in no matter gear they needed to go and stand on the facet of the road. 

It was simply an, it was an insane second to simply expertise standing there in, in just like the chaos of what was unfolding, however then all these folks coming collectively to protest on the similar time.

AIGNER: Did you acknowledge that if you had been there or did it not fairly register with you? What precisely.

REYNOLDS: Yeah,

AIGNER: You had been. In the midst of and making an attempt to seize till later?

REYNOLDS: I truthfully suppose after I noticed all of the messages on my cellphone and I noticed, “Hey, yeah, we need a photographer.” I instantly flipped into work mode. And I feel that, , as , scholar reporters had been taught how to try this, proper? 

In a aggravating scenario, we have now to form of be. We must be calm. And like I, for me, in these varieties of conditions as is like when one thing is frightening or aggravating, I do get calm. And that’s simply form of my baseline. And so I simply instantly was like, I bought it. I’ll seize my digicam, I’ll go.

And so it wasn’t solely till after I used to be driving away that I known as my dad and I used to be like, did you, have you ever seen the information and have you ever seen something? And he was like, no. And I’m like. I don’t even know the way to start explaining the final three hours of my life.

AIGNER: Right.

REYNOLDS: And so it was simply actually, actually, after which after I was explaining it to him, I’m like, oh my gosh, like there may be this man who was shot and killed. And that was after I was actually recognizing it. I used to be like one other particular person, , as a result of that is the second dying, , following Renee Good , being shot and killed by federal brokers.

And it was simply this tragic, like heartbreaking second that I had as I used to be pulling into the parking zone of my house. I’m like, oh my God. Like what? Like how, and once more, like I’ve grown up right here most of my life, like I by no means would’ve imagined these had been just like the headlines that might be occurring about artwork, like my state and, and, and it’s simply so tragic and unhappy and, I simply felt lots in that second.

But then once more, I form of needed to dive again into work mode as a result of photographers on my desk, we began to ship folks to, , completely different websites, . People protesting after which demonstrations after which the vigils, proper? So I needed to flip again form of into what’s subsequent? 

AIGNER: Managing folks mode.

REYNOLDS: Managing folks, as a result of I wasn’t only a photographer. I had different people who I needed to direct and ensure they had been secure. And that was the following like six, eight hours of my life. Like I didn’t get again to my house till in all probability nearly midnight that evening.

AIGNER: And I bumped into you.

REYNOLDS: Yeah. At the vigil. It was in Van Cleve, proper. And that was one in every of like a whole bunch occurring throughout town and throughout the state. Which I realized happening social media. There was simply folks discovering the nook of blocks on their avenue in Minneapolis to simply go stand with a candle. It was wild. 

AIGNER: One final fast query about that day after which. We’ll kinda transfer on a bit of bit. You had a mo, you left the positioning the place Alex Pretti was killed and the protests that form of had been beginning to type.

REYNOLDS: Mm-hmm.

AIGNER: You spoke to your dad, you had a second of recognition.

REYNOLDS: Mm-hmm.

AIGNER: About what you had been simply part of. 

REYNOLDS: Yeah. 

AIGNER: And what you had been seeing. You return into work mode, the place are you at? At round eight, 9:00 p.m. that evening by way of like emotional, psychological, work focus?

REYNOLDS: Honestly, I used to be sitting within the every day workplace and I used to be simply exhausted. I used to be identical to pouring over like a whole bunch of photographs that, , folks had gone and gotten on the vigils and like simply exhausted.

I feel emotionally, I simply wasn’t, once more, I feel even after like days after, they’re like, “Oh, how are you?” And I’m like, I don’t know the way to reply that query. And it’s not as a result of I, like, I don’t really feel unhappy or I don’t, , it’s simply because it’s lots to love. Kind of stroll via, after which like for us, we’re educated to be the observers, proper?

We’re not essentially there due to political affiliation or perception or , like we’re supposed to point out up and be the impartial social gathering. And in these conditions, , it’s like we’ve, we’ve talked about it at school, however like these are issues that you simply actually don’t like know, or like the way to cope with till you’re in it’s like the way to separate your self emotionally.

And so that you do form of must emotionally distance your self from it, however that such as you’re human and like anyone died. And so once more, I used to be like exhausted, however then I lastly at like eight or 9:00 p.m. humorous that you simply convey up that point I actually was sitting within the workplace and like I lastly bought to look at the video during.

I’d solely seen a clip earlier than I needed to like, simply go and get in my automobile and depart. Like a really temporary a part of the clip. I hadn’t seen all of it. I hadn’t seen your complete interplay.

AIGNER: You imply between Alex Pretti and, yeah. 

REYNOLDS: Yeah. Between Alex Pretti and the federal immigration brokers. And so I, I didn’t see that like he had been serving to a bystander. I didn’t see, , the aftermath of how he had been shoved right down to the bottom and all these items, these factual details as a reporter that you simply’re educated to, like, , take note of and, and, and acknowledge. And I used to be simply, , I, as an individual and as a reporter, I used to be horrified by what I noticed and I simply was actually horrific.

And so, once more, that was one other second the place I used to be identical to, holy crap. Like this really occurred. Because you’re form of like, , working on adrenaline. And I feel I informed Sophia, who’s the humanities and leisure editor.

AIGNER: Sophia Arndt. Yes.

REYNOLDS: Yeah. And she, she was like, “How are you,” on the vigil. I used to be like, “I’m running on adrenaline.” Like I’m not, I don’t suppose I’m mentally right here proper now, so, yeah. Yeah.

AIGNER: So you talked about vests. 

REYNOLDS: Yeah.

AIGNER: You had been simply mentioning a vest. 

REYNOLDS:Yeah. 

AIGNER: And I wanna discuss to you a bit of bit about, PPE. You stated you form of had been at that web site in a flash.

REYNOLDS: Yeah.

AIGNER: You weren’t, you didn’t really feel significantly ready?

REYNOLDS: No. 

AIGNER: No vest on, which suggests a press vest, um, that goes over garments for these listening. In block letters in white, it ought to say press or one thing like that. So it designates you as an observer, basically. 

If you had been to exit and canopy an occasion like what occurred on the web site, Alex Pretti was killed, or one other protest in downtown Minneapolis, what would it’s essential to put on? What would it’s essential to have? Tell me about the way you as a journalist must attempt to hold your self secure.

REYNOLDS: Yeah, no, numerous newsrooms are having that dialog and even, I feel we’ve all had the dialog in our newsroom of like, what do we have to spend money on? And it’s numerous stuff that we didn’t suppose we ever needed to spend money on.

So, if I’m going into that sort of scenario, given what’s been happening which for context, like, , federal brokers have been deploying some, , issues which can be generally known as much less, much less deadly, ammunitions and.

AIGNER: Like rubber bullets.

REYNOLDS: Rubber bullets.

AIGNER: Tear fuel.

REYNOLDS: Yep.

REYNOLDS: Pepper spray. Yep.

AIGNER: Some extra harmful gases as nicely.

REYNOLDS: Correct. 

AIGNER: Yeah. 

REYNOLDS: And we’ve seen on social media that that’s not simply been used on protesters. It’s been used on journalists. Jana Shortal or KARE 11. 

AIGNER: Mm-hmm. 

REYNOLDS: She was not solely bodily assaulted, however she was pepper sprayed proper within the face as she was protecting what was happening the identical day as, , the Alex Pretti capturing. And so, so, no reporter and I’ve to provide numerous credit score to the blokes on the video desk. Specifically Casey, as a result of he was out at Whipple. 

He was doing numerous protection and, and Neil, um, was additionally out protecting the aftermath of each of them had been out protecting the aftermath of Renee Good’s capturing. And they, they did, , they put fuel masks on, that they had, , much more of the PPE that you simply want. And so, to form of backtrack, like what we do want once we’re in these conditions is you want a fuel masks, ideally a, a superb one. 

That’s not, , the Home Depot ones that we went out and bought ourselves we’re effective, however , there are various kinds of gases getting used. We realized in a coaching that we did a HEFAT coaching, which is sort of a Hostile Environment Training on the Star Tribune, that they’re not simply utilizing like tear fuel. 

They’re additionally utilizing corrosive fuel. That’s been, that was, , discovered they use corrosive fuel in, Portland, Oregon. At least that was discovered after one of many demonstrations. And so, , that’s as like, , that’s as poisonous as it could actually actually get. For anyone that’s inhaling that stuff. So you want a superb fuel masks, you want goggles. You want to have the ability to have saline that you may, , pour, , squirt in your eyes if you happen to do get tear, tear gassed.

Having a primary assist equipment in your automobile, , that’s accessible. Something that we realized on the Strib is definitely having a tourniquet on you. That can save a life. You know, I by no means would’ve thought to choose that up and put that in my bag of provides, however now I’m. It’s actually on its approach from Amazon.

Like I’ve invested in some of these items myself. And as a newsroom, like we’ve invested in additional press fests, we’ve invested in additional first assist kits. We have a complete huge lovely shelf now devoted to it, and it’s good, proper? 

AIGNER: Mm-hmm. 

REYNOLDS: Like, it’s form of loopy that that exists now, however I, I feel if that had existed a, , every week in the past or two weeks in the past now that the capturing of Alex Pretti occurred, I’d’ve come right here first and gotten that gear after which I’d’ve gone into the scene. I simply didn’t, we simply didn’t have that arrange but.

AIGNER: Right.

REYNOLDS: And so once more, I’ll by no means go into that scenario ever once more doing that. Because that was the primary lesson I used to be like. Oh, they don’t, they received’t know that I’m press if I get too shut. And so I used to be holding my badge out on the final resort and capturing with my digicam within the different hand.

AIGNER: Right.

REYNOLDS: Just to love make it a bit of bit extra apparent. So once more, fuel masks , saline, press vest. Absolutely. Just a few of these issues that you simply form of really feel such as you’re gearing up to enter battle and like, it’s onerous to not really feel that approach, however you’d relatively be secure than sorry. 

And so at the very least that’s the lesson that we’ve all form of gained during the last two weeks. Like, don’t put your self in better hazard or better threat than it’s important to.

AIGNER: I, in dialog with simply different co reporters right here, editors right here at The Daily, I feel for positive the, the truth that we at the moment are buying protecting gear is unquestionably one other second of recognition of what, the truth of what’s happening in Minneapolis proper now and our position as journalists there. I didn’t anticipate that The Daily can be buying bulletproof press vests.

REYNOLDS: Right.

AIGNER: Personally. 

REYNOLDS: Right, yeah. With the ceramic plates. Yeah.

AIGNER: Yep.

REYNOLDS: Yep.

AIGNER: Yep. So.

REYNOLDS: It’s a wild time.

AIGNER: And such as you stated, but it surely’s good.

REYNOLDS: Yeah. Yeah.

AIGNER: A loopy factor to say, but it surely’s, it’s. Yeah. So do you’ve any moments from protecting the 2, financial blackout protests in downtown Minneapolis, both from behind your digicam that you simply caught or in interacting with people who confirmed as much as protest which have actually caught with you?

REYNOLDS: Yeah. So I solely coated the, the one earlier than the dying of Alex Pretti. 

AIGNER: Apologies. 

REYNOLDS: Um, however, the 2, again to again was wild. So, however the, the one which I did cowl with the, the folks on the photograph desk and a video desk was simply, once more, I feel for me, after I bought onto the crowded like metro line and it was packed.

Like, I, once more, I studied overseas and so one thing in London that you simply’re used to, that you simply get used to is that this packed tube line and the tube is the metro system there. And it was that. It was that. And I, and I used to be identical to, oh my gosh. Like this. This is, I’ve not seen a metro line that packed in ever. 

I don’t suppose I’ve ever in, , I’ve used the metro after I’ve lived as I’ve lived right here, and it’s by no means been that busy. Shoulder to shoulder, you couldn’t squeeze extra folks in. And then we bought there, and once more, it was the sheer variety of people who confirmed up. In subzero, subzero temperatures is just not even actually giving it the total image. Like it was damaging 40 with windchill. It was actually, actually chilly. And so, it was the folks, the quantity to start with, that identical to actually caught with me.

But then like a number of the conversations I had a extremely nice dialog with he was a former vet, he was a corporal within the, within the navy. And he, he was simply so uncooked and sincere about how he felt in regards to the scenario. You know, and like I’ve it in a quote within the caption, in our photograph, in our photograph story that we revealed, he was identical to, these persons are evil.

Like what they’re doing is just not what I, principally what he was saying was like, I, this isn’t what I went to battle for. This is just not why I fought for my, this isn’t the, this isn’t what I stood for as I, like, , fought for my nation. And, that was only a very heartbreaking interplay, since you may see it on his face that like, he was simply devastated that like, that is what was occurring.

Because it’s clearly, , it simply was such a, it was such an ethical, moral dilemma for him, as anyone that, , was within the navy and he was, he was actually, actually upset. So that was a dialog that basically caught with me. And then one other girl who we met within the skyway, as a result of folks had been resorting to going within the skyways to get breaks from the chilly.

She, she simply was watching and she or he was nearly in tears. She was like, “This is beautiful.” She informed us that she lived close to George Floyd Square and she or he was like, we want extra folks to point out up for our neighbors, particularly our, our various neighbors, as a result of Minneapolis is extremely various and we have now so many various cultures that make up the completely different wards and neighborhoods, , in our metropolis.

And so she was simply very moved by the gang and we have now this nice image of her standing in entrance of the window after which simply. Thousands of individuals behind her or in entrance of her. And, that was only a actually nice second too, simply to speak to them after which hear their, their enter and their tales, so. 

AIGNER: Powerful.

REYNOLDS: Yeah.

AIGNER: Getting into my final couple questions for you simply usually, you’re additionally a scholar.

REYNOLDS: Yeah, in some way.

AIGNER: Quick reminder! How has your expertise as a scholar right here and your perspective on the continued Operation Metro Surge been modified by your position as a journalist as nicely by way of how you are feeling on a day-to-day foundation going to class the choices you make about something. Um, the place you go, no matter. How have these two items of your life been form of intertwining?

REYNOLDS: I feel that, once more, there’s, I, it’s prefer it’s onerous for me to separate myself from the job that we do, a bit of bit. But I feel if I had been to place myself in simply the coed sneakers of like, “Oh, you know, you actually have to care about homework and things like that.” And I’m a senior too, so I feel that’s a part of it that I’m identical to, I don’t, like, I don’t have the psychological capability. Some days I actually don’t have the psychological capability to cope with it.

And I feel all people, at the very least folks I discuss to, it’s like we’re nonetheless alleged to be regular in some way once we’re residing via such a historic second. But it’s like historic in a extremely form of like fearful we don’t know what’s gonna occur subsequent form of approach. 

And I feel that it’s actually tough as a result of one thing I, my sister, she known as me after Renee Good, was shot and killed and she or he simply was like, “It just keeps getting worse.” And like, what? What are we gonna like, what will we do? 

And it’s actually onerous as a result of like, like that’s my youthful sister and it’s like, how do you, , and it’s, it’s so, it’s tough. It’s like, it’s tough to confront what’s happening after which attempt to be a standard particular person, if that is sensible. And like, deal with your self and all these items that like primary regular features, you’re, you’re a human being on the finish of the day. But yeah, I, it’s simply, it’s simply one thing that, it’s not straightforward for me to do. I’ll lose monitor of that very simply. But yeah, so yeah.

AIGNER: Yeah. I feel your expertise may be very relatable for lots of people on this workplace, together with myself in some methods. So, my final query for you is, what’s one thing that you really want individuals who perhaps don’t stay in Minneapolis or don’t completely perceive what’s occurring right here, or are perhaps apathetic to what’s occurring right here, to learn about your expertise, what you’ve seen? What the truth of what’s occurring right here? The concern.

REYNOLDS: Yeah.

AIGNER: That persons are experiencing.

REYNOLDS: Yeah, that’s a superb query. I, I feel it’s twofold actually, as a result of, I feel it’s important to perceive that if you happen to don’t stay right here, you don’t perceive how lovely Minneapolis is as a metropolis. And I feel Minneapolis really has gotten only a, like a not nice rap within the information and within the information cycle.

And from folks’s viewpoint, they’re like, “How do you live there?” And I’m like, “Well, let me tell you a little bit about it and maybe I’ll change your mind.” Because once more, I’ve grown up right here most of my life. Like I’ve lived within the cities and I’ve, , lived in numerous elements of Minnesota and it’s, it’s a lovely place to be and it’s a lovely, , metropolis and there’s lots of people right here that we’re seeing form of come collectively throughout this time in a extremely actually wild approach. 

And in a approach that’s very distinctive from, , different locations the place this has occurred and the place federal immigration has gone within the quantity of neighborhood organizing and neighbors, , going and getting groceries for folks and all these things. So that’s the half that I don’t need folks to lose monitor of is that there’s, there may be this neighborhood that exists and that we, like our folks actually genuinely care about one another.

And I feel that that’s, that’s actually onerous to love see from all of the loopy footage that you simply’re gonna see on like CNN, the place it’s actually appears to be like like a battle zone. That’s not, I imply, I, I hope that like mainstream media can present extra of the neighborhood organizing that’s happening, the neighbors which can be pulling collectively sources to buy groceries and or get diapers or, , this, that and the opposite factor.

There’s a lot of that happening too, which actually speaks to love the character of people who stay within the metropolis, but in addition the state. And so, whereas there’s numerous ugly and there’s numerous unhappy proper now, there’s additionally numerous issues that you may take a look at and also you’re like, “Oh, that is like the character of that city and it’s not defined by what’s happening to it at the same time.”

AIGNER: Well stated. Do you’ve anything you wanna share with folks?

REYNOLDS: No, that’s, , it’s simply, once more, loopy time to be a scholar. Crazy time to be a younger grownup. And I feel that yeah, I feel, , we’ve talked about this, however like, it’s simply we have now to take it daily. 

And so for anyone that’s like processing what’s happening and like they’re at a distance, you additionally must take it daily. Something we’ve been informed, don’t be always saturated in your newsfeed. Like we’re, , in information like we’re, we’re, , scholar reporters.

I actually must take 48-hour breaks from my cellphone. So it’s important to nonetheless keep in mind that, once more, you’re a human. Don’t lose monitor of that. And the brand new cycles are all the time gonna be there. Take a break and deal with your self. Because we have now to keep up some sort of composure throughout this time. And so the perfect factor you are able to do is rather like defend your peace a bit of bit right here and there. 

AIGNER: Thank you a lot Hannah for being right here immediately. This was an exquisite dialog. I’m so glad that I bought the prospect to sit down down with you. You do wonderful work right here.

REYNOLDS: Thank you.

AIGNER: You can discover her on the Minnesota Daily web site. Alright, that’s all I’ve bought for you immediately, people. This episode was recorded by Grace Aigner, that’s me, and Hannah Reynolds, and produced by Ceci Heinen. 

Thank you for listening and when you have any questions, feedback, or issues, don’t be afraid to ship us an e mail at [email protected]. I’d love to listen to from you. 

My identify is Grace Aigner. Be secure, be nicely and I’ll discuss to you subsequent time on In The Know.


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