Each class I attempt simply is not enjoyable – Common Dialogue

I attempted all of my stage 80 characters on coaching dummies in Dornogal, and whereas one thing like shadow priest or frost mage doesn’t instantly put me to sleep, they’re too predictable and simplistic long run and change into horribly boring – like I used to be falling asleep as I acquired my spriest to 90.

Classes like aug, regardless of being roughly the identical, misplaced lots of little optimizations you are able to do throughout fight, and because of this it’s change into overly straightforward and uninteresting, regardless of it being my favourite spec within the recreation because it got here out.

Healers as a complete are simply ruined. There is not any nuance to them anymore.

Like I don’t know what else to attempt. I’ve arms warrior I can attempt because it’s kind of the identical because it was in TWW and was tolerable, I may attempt frost mage in actual content material as an alternative of coaching dummies, but when neither of these works I suppose WoW’s simply finished for me – which is unhappy as a result of no different MMO is de facto value enjoying.

Thanks for gutting an already straightforward recreation, I suppose.

I’m positive. It was already two buttons in TWW.

Yeah this places me to sleep too

My foremost is a Ret Polly. I’m having a ton of enjoyable. It actually hasn’t modified a lot since TWW.

Destro nonetheless has all of its buttons I consider. Maybe give {that a} attempt?

Totemic feels alright, however Stormbringer is sort of a one button class.

You nonetheless want an addon to convey again maelstrom show, which is insanely irritating.

I discovered one that’s fairly actually what the default was once. It’s fairly good.

Didn’t you simply put up this thread?

More consideration? Better bait?

What are we doing?

I nonetheless can not perceive the logic in eradicating this to start with, it’s required primarily if you wish to be optimum and have Shaman really feel much less cumbersome

It could be one factor if the buff bar was organizable. But it’s a large number.

Zero show of any type for maelstrom simply feels dangerous. No concept why they didn’t deal with it like costs on the hotbar button.

Don’t play then… not likely a troublesome resolution for you and this “easy game” wherein you aren’t doing max content material.

Well already Ret put me to sleep in TWW, so I think about it’d be worse now that it has much less buttons and issues to concentrate to.

The situation isn’t actually the variety of buttons, it’s an absence of interactions between them to vary how and once they’re used.

There’s simply no actual variation, and the result’s the rotation form of simply devolves into urgent no matter your filler is while ready for the subsequent button to return off cd.

That can be enjoyable, if it’s additionally a bit hectic, however in any other case it drags when you’re spending greater than 20-30 seconds in fight at a time.

I’m all for taking the bloat out. That recreation that got here out not too long ago was enjoyable for that. The Mythic+ simulator. Too drained to google it.

I believe we want sufficient buttons to get our homicide on, some distinctive utility and taste for every class, and that’s about it. No must overcomplicate issues.

Number of buttons issues too bro.

KMMOs have all types of dodging and shifting and flashy results and whatnot happening, however you’re simply mashing two buttons the entire time with out actually considering. Same situation soulslikes have. Both are unfun due to it.

Right now we’ve too few buttons, however sure we even have overly simplified class design with no actual interplay or considering happening – that’s been a difficulty for years now.

There is not any bloat. The solely class I’d name bloated is shaman as a result of they made all of the totems particular person talents as an alternative of a totem bar like we used to have.

Nothing in right here explains WHY much less buttons is dangerous and why variety of buttons matter.

It issues in that there’s a flooring to what you possibly can construct an enticing gameplay loop round, as you say. Two is just too little, however there may be little distinction between 7 and eight. It’s extra about what roles the abiltiies play inside a rotation, and the way they work together to be greater than the sum of their components.

Just play fellowship. I haven’t gotten midnight because it’s a downgrade to interact with what they do to present content material.

The WoW devs blew up their recreation as a result of slightly than let content material and development stand by itself, they double downed on their cellular recreation choreslop and p2w parts. They nuked courses and trivialized WoW as a result of they is not going to and can’t cease doing such.

that one small factor has saved me from going again to shaman tbh, I mustn’t want an addon for that. I fail to know the purpose of including a useful resource on high of mana.