Nightmare Prey – Violates its Acknowledged Design Objectives Which Hurts the Enjoyable – Common Dialogue

For this dialogue, can we please desk the hackneyed outdated canards like “skill issue”, “its easy for me”, “its called nightmare for a reason”, “get gud scrub” that don’t have any place in a design dialogue.

Resist the temptation to make use of this thread to stroke your ego about how nice you’re at WoW. Nobody is impressed. I get Keystone Master and AOTC each enlargement. So what. Nobody cares.

Instead, ponder whether or not it’s good for the sport for a solo, open world system to violate its personal said design targets and within the course of be far much less enjoyable, and much more sweaty than it needs to be.

Kim Flack, Senior Game Designer, one of many Main Designers of the Prey System:

“do your world quest at the same time as finishing a prey hunt, or you want to do your rare-mob circuit, or pick up some treasures… It’s a great way to kind of multi-task. And just do two birds with one stone.”

Uh, no. That is completely NOT the case and NOT potential for Nightmare prey hunts. They have to be your whole focus, or you’ll die… rapidly.

1. Is it meant that Nightmare Prey requires that you just utterly abandon the “great way to kind of multi-task” and “just do two birds with one stone” parts of its said design?

2. Is it meant that Nightmare Prey is definitely very sweaty and never informal pleasant by any means.

3. Is it meant for the Echo of Predation and Bloody Debt occasions to occur this regularly? About as soon as per minute every? Often overlapping, and sometimes on prime of an ambush as effectively?

4. Is it meant for gamers to go 100% well being to lifeless in 5 seconds?

5. Is it meant for solo, open world content material to kill gamers in 5 seconds when their solely “mistake” was one of many following:

• Doing non-Prey world content material within the zone just like the developer’s design.
• Gathering assets, particularly in a tough to succeed in location.
• Doing a world quest in a location with no mobs.
• Being in quest or NPC dialog.
• Participating in a zone occasion like Stormarion Assault with no mobs to kill rapidly, and a lot happening coping with the Echo is likely to be tough.
• Being in a cave or wherever with poor digicam angles, and the Echo can’t be seen or focused quick sufficient (or in any respect).
• Being in a closely populated space the place gamers kill each mob on spawn.
• Checking their map, quest log, or journey journal.
• Recently used their CC/interrupt on an ambush or different mob and it’s on cooldown when the Echo arrives.
• Being hyper-snared and CCed mid-ambush earlier than they’ll attain any mob to kill.
• Prefer studying issues in sport somewhat than learning them on third social gathering internet sites prematurely.
• Anything private in any respect (consuming water, placing headset on/off, and many others).

(Add your individual beneath – I do know this listing is much from full.)

Yes, if you don’t do ANY of the above issues, you’re in favorable terrain, you’re good on the sport, have quick response occasions, and many others., the content material is not any downside.

But that’s utterly at odds with “It’s a great way to kind of multi-task” or “do two birds with one stone.” Those two issues can not coexist because the system at the moment works.

To put this in sport design phrases: There are not any attention-grabbing choices right here, solely uninteresting ones (apparent and blind ones). That isn’t good sport design.

When the Prey system launched, I assumed it was nice. It made open world content material extra attention-grabbing and extra enjoyable. I used to seize a hunt after which go to the zone and do all kinds of cool stuff, often culminating within the last battle for my teleport house.

Now I solely do it for the gear. I focus in, grind it out as quick as I can, get my loot, and I’m carried out.

What a missed alternative. It now not dietary supplements world content material.

It’s simply one other unappealing grind to grit your tooth and bang out as rapidly as potential, somewhat than one thing cool to be savored, loved, and remembered.